Wednesday, January 9, 2013

Sprouting fodder for our livestock Part 5 - success & growth

This morning when it was time to rinse/drain, I was greeted by green on the sprouts!  This was a happy moment because this being my first time sprouting I was hoping that everything I'd read about them not needing to be in direct sunlight would still produce a green growth, which (yay!) happened.  The sprouts have been sitting on the island counter in the middle of the kitchen, getting indirect sunlight from the window over the sink and the window next to the door.

1/09/13 - Pasture mix green - day 5

It was suggested that at this stage it would be beneficial to the sprouts if they were transferred out of the jars into a bin where they could have more space, better air flow and better light.  The picture below was taken a few minutes after arranging them; later in the day the sprouts had grown/moved more upwards, towards the light coming in from the skylight (I'd also moved them from the kitchen to the bathroom, where the main setup is)


1/09/13 - winter wheat, black oil sunflower seeds, pasture mix - day 5

The set up, ta-da!  My original plan was to use racks that came out of an old fridge, lay them across the edge of the tub and put the trays on them.  The racks weren't long enough.

This set up is from supplies I already had on hand.  The wire racks I'd purchased about 15 years ago from either Kmart or Walmart.  I did a little rearranging of towels and supplies so I could use these.  The bins I had stored in a box, I'd bought them a few years ago at one of the dollar stores.

If you haven't been following along (our Sprouting/Fodder page) I'm using our bathtub because it doesn't get used for baths.  Our hot water heater can only fill it 1/4 of the way with hot water, so its been used as a beginning brooder for chicks & guineas and not a tub.  I don't have to worry about setting up draining tubs to catch the water, I have a water source about 2 ft from the bins, it sits almost directly under a big skylight.



Please don't pay attention to the awful colors in this room, I haven't gotten around to painting over it yet, so just pretend its white or pale blue. 


I had 20 bins in the box, plus 2 that I found on top of the fridge in Mr. Wilds shop.  The grating we've had for years, its been sitting around waiting for a job.


Last night (1/08/13) I mixed the 3 seeds/grains that I used in the trial into a 5 gallon bucket.  
I used pasture mix (orchard, timothy, fescue & rye grasses with red & ladino clovers), black oil sunflower seeds and winter wheat.  During the trial I've noticed that the growth rate was really close for all three, the wheat sprouting a bit longer than the other two, so I decided that for this round I'd mix them together and see how that works.  The mix weighed 20 lbs dry.

1/08/13 - close up of the 3 mixed together

I did the initial mixing of the 3 in one bucket, it was about an inch and a half maybe two inches from the top.  I realized as I had my hands in it stirring it around that I was going to need more space for water and swelling.  I got another bucket, divided it in half and then filled them a little over half full with cold water straight out of the faucet.  Some of the other trials/journeys I've read through have mentioned adding vitamins  or soaking in bleach or vinegar, this is to help prevent mold and to help with growth.  I'd like to see how this goes without any additions as one of the reasons for doing this is to reduce costs for feed.  If I have issues with mold I'll consider the options that have been shared.

1/09/13 - after soaking overnight, roughly 12 hours

I still needed to drill the holes in the bins.  I used a 3/32 drill bit.  I used this small size because the grasses and the clover seeds are tiny and I didn't want the water to pour out quickly.


I drilled 12 holes in each bin.  I'd recommend drilling from the inside of the bin to the outside.  I did it from the bottom into the inside and ended up with lots of plastic sticking up into the bin, blocking the holes.  I also did a quick in/out drilling and ended up having to re-drill each hole (12x22 twice,  not fun) and then clean up each hole with a pair of tweezers to remove all the plastic.


I drilled holes yesterday in the red bucket, after the time it took to drain I now realize I should've drilled many many more.  This bucket is only for rinsing after the overnight soak, so I do want the water to drain quickly. 

1/09/13 - rinsing after soaking overnight - the purple color is from the red clover

I measured out 6 cups for each bin, I weighed each bin, they ranged from 2.42 lbs to 2.64 lbs, so I added/subtracted to make them each an even 2.5 lbs.  The exception being the big bin in the back left, that bin is quite a bit bigger so it ended up with almost 6 lbs in it, spread out it is an inch deep.  

1/09/13 - the seeds dispersed evenly into 12 bins

The seeds needed to be rinsed a few more times as the water that was draining was still draining with a purple tinge.  I rinsed/drained 5 times before the water ran clear.  I don't know if this was necessary but it made me feel better that I wasn't leaving dirty water in.

I use a gallon jug to rinse, pouring in enough water to float/move the seeds in the entire bin.  Its a little over 1/2 full when I do this.  Again, I don't know if this is right, but for me I can see that the water is getting to all parts of the bin, watering them all.  I also think (and I'll post how it turns out) that the flooding method will help to wash out anything that may cause molds and give everything a better chance for growth.

1/09/13 - close up of the rinsing/draining

I put the temperature & humidity gauge on the back of the tub.  I've read that the seeds need between 60-70 degrees, with 65 being optimal.  This was up in our barn and I didn't give it much chance to adjust to the temp change when I took the picture.  When I checked it around 3pm, it was 64 degrees.


Tomorrow I'll go over the costs, the things I'd change about what I've done so far, the supplies and what I expect out from the amount I've put in.

Tuesday, January 8, 2013

Sprouting fodder for our livestock Part 4 - tripled in size!

This mornings rinse session was super exciting!  The wheat had tripled in amount while the black oil sunflower seeds and pasture mix doubled.  I had to switch them all into quart size jars.  Unfortunately the 5 grain scratch isn't sprouting and has started to smell funky, almost like fermentation.

Part 1, Part 2, and Part 3 of this journey.

Winter wheat sprouts pushing up through the cheesecloth - day 4

Winter wheat filling the pint jar - day 4

Black oil sunflower seeds over half full in the pint jar - day 4

Transferred into the quart jars - day 4

Monday, January 7, 2013

Sprouting fodder for our livestock Part 3 - its growing

As I mentioned in Part 1 & Part 2 I started with a small amount (1/4 cup) to test the success or fail of the seeds/grains we already have on hand.  So far, I am very pleased.  The winter wheat and the black oil sunflower seeds are growing at about the same rate.  This morning when I went to rinse, the wheat sprouts were sticking out of the cheesecloth!

I rinsed & drained 3 times yesterday and kept the jars tipped in the plastic container (to allow them to drain and not sit in water) and covered with a cotton tea towel.

Day 3 - wheat sprouts sticking out through the cheesecloth

Day 3 - black oil sunflower seeds

Day 3 - black oil sunflower seeds

Day 3 - winter wheat

Day 3 - pasture mix - so far it looks like the clover is sprouting, I'm not sure if the grasses are.

I don't have a picture of the 5 grain scratch because I'm just not sure if its actually sprouting or if what I'm seeing is pieces of cracked corn.  I think I saw sprouting on the barley, hopefully this evening if it is, it will be more obvious and I'll have pictures to share.

After rinsing this morning I decided to leave them uncovered (I'd been covering them with a tea towel) as its going to be a bit warmer and the sun is actually shining in through the windows.

I'd like to start setting up the racks & trays today as well as get the bucket drilled.  I'm going to set this up in my bathtub in our master bathroom.  When we bought the house it didn't have a tub, so we bought one but didn't think to check the depth of the tub against the capacity of our hot water heater.  So now we have a really deep awesome tub that our hot water heater only fills 1/4 of the way with hot water.  Taking a bath at this time just isn't happening.  So far, our tub has been used as a starter brooder for chicks and guineas lol.

My plan is to use grating we've had stored for years as well as some wire racks that came out of an old refrigerator.  I can hook up a short hose from the faucet so I can water the trays and the water can drain down the drain.  Also our bathroom has a big skylight so that provides the diluted sunlight/ambient lighting.

Sunday, January 6, 2013

Sprouting fodder for our livestock Part 2 - Rinsing & draining & rinsing & draining

As I mentioned in Part 1 I started out with a small amount, 1/4 cup each, of pasture mix, 5 grain scratch, black oil sunflower seeds and winter wheat.  I soaked them overnight (in clean pickle jars that we'd been saving), on the kitchen counter.  The next morning, about 12 hours later, I rinsed them in tepid water.

Rinsing the black oil sunflower seeds.  They were soft and plump.  I picked out anything that looked bad (there was one piece that was a brownish color and odd shaped).

Rinsing the pasture mix.  It took several refills of the jar to get all the grass seeds out.

The pasture mix after rinsing.  Some of the red clover faded to a more lite pink color.  The grasses (timothy, orchard, fescue & rye) seemed fuller/plump.

The 5 grain scratch after being rinsed.  The barley, sorghum and wheat plumped up a bit.


Rinsing the wheat.  It ended up being the plumpest out of all the seeds.

After we rinsed them I transferred them into pint size canning jars.  I used a thin cotton tea towel that I'd cut into pieces held down by the screw on ring to cover the tops.  I filled the jars with water and then drained them again.  I ended up changing the tea towel out for cheese cloth because the water wasn't draining well through the towel, I was having to shake it out and was worried that it would damage the seeds.

You can see the water sitting in the bottom of the black oil sunflower seed jar.


You can see the water sitting in the bottom of the pasture mix seed jar.

You can see the water sitting in the bottom of the 5 grain scratch jar.

You can see the water sitting in the bottom of the winter wheat jar.

You want the water to drain out, but not dry out the seeds.  Others have reported molds growing if they don't drain the excess water.  The Urban Rabbit Project is growing theirs in small organizer type trays with slats in the sides, tipping to drain.  Their main rabbit, Mufasa, is a big fan of the fodder!


Propping them to finish draining.


More draining.

In one of the groups I belong to there is a lady sprouting lentils for her chickens, she's got the trays in her living room on the floor so they can get sunlight.  I think one of the greatest things about this process is that you can do it pretty much anywhere and with seeds, grains, nuts, the possibilities are numerous. 


More links with great information
I love that I keep finding others that are successfully growing and feeding fodder!  Over at Farming in My Fifties she talks about sprouting fodder to combat against the high hay prices after last years droughts.

Granny's Best has quite a few posts about fodder for her goats!  So far she's got 4 parts and is still documenting her trials.

A paper on the nutritional qualities of sprouts and fodder.

Saturday, January 5, 2013

Sprouting fodder for our livestock Part 1 - testing what we've already got on hand

I stumbled upon sprouting for livestock when I was looking for information on sprouting for my family and it became a subject I needed to know more about.  The cost of feeds has and is going to continue to go up, and even though all of our animals (except the rabbits) free range graze all day everyday, we still buy feed to supplement.  We currently spend about $400 a month on feed, not including hay that we purchase for the rabbits & for winter.  When I started researching, I was blown away by  how much we could save while increasing not only their nutrition but the amount it would produce using a fraction of what we're currently feeding.

What was really interesting to me was that once I started looking for information, I found there were quite a few others who'd already started and were sharing their journey (at the bottom of the post I've got the links of the places I found).  Facebook groups for backyard chickens and rabbits were talking about, goat farms and alpaca herd owners were doing it.  Then I went out to a farm a couple of hours from us and they had a wheelbarrow sitting at the entrance of their barn full of fodder that they'd sprouted in their workshop!  They were feeding it to their goats, ducks & chickens and they gobbled it up!!  That was all I needed to see to know that this was something we HAD to learn to do and implement as soon as we could.

Starting the overnight soaking
1/04/13 - I started with a small amount, 1/4 cup.  I want to make sure what I'm using will sprout before investing bigger amounts.  I'm using what I've already got here on the farm.

From left to right - Jar 1: Pasture mix (orchard, timothy, fescue & rye grasses with red & ladino clover) - this is what we use to seed our fields for the cattle, horses & goats.

Jar 2:  5 grain scratch (corn, wheat, sorghum, barley, black oil sunflower seeds) - this is part of what we feed our chickens in the evening.  I don't have much faith that this will do anything because its already been mixed and the corn is cracked. 

Jar 3:  Black oil sunflower seeds - we mix these into all of the feeds.  One of our rabbit does will dig through her feed and pick out all of the boss, throwing the rest out, so she gets hers separate in a small bowl.

Jar 4:  Winter wheat - we use this to seed our fields as well as have one field just for growing it thats fenced off from the cattle.

5 grain scratch close-up

I weighed everything out.  
The pasture mix - 1/4 cup = .80 oz (23 grams)
The 5 grain scratch - 1/4 cup = 1.35 oz (38 grams)
The black oil sunflower seeds - 1/4 cup = .85 oz (24 grams)
The winter wheat - 1/4 cup = 1.50 oz (43 grams)

Pasture mix close-up

These charts are not my creation, they were posted on facebook.
This chart came from The Nourished Seed, but their wordpress blog has been deleted at the time of this posting.

This chart is from Oolaboolah and is part of their article on sprouting nuts and seeds for good health.

Part 2 will be tomorrow, I'll share the rinsing/draining of the jars and what we'll be using for cover.  I'll also be sharing more information from those who've run into issues, are having great successes and how their animals are responding.

Links for great sprouting/fodder information
I love the setup that Quartz Ridge Ranch has and they've been so encouraging with their support!  They've got quite a few posts about fodder on their blog with lots of great pictures!

Little Seed Farm shares their sprouting routine for their goats with lots of pictures and information.

Over at Promiseland Farm they've got a video showing how they  prepare their seeds and talk about the nutrient values and what to look for when you're purchasing seeds.

In the Backyard Chickens forum a couple shares their setup and success sprouting in the PNW on their back porch!  Lots of pictures and steps.

Paca Pride Guest Ranch is sprouting on a bigger scale for their, you guessed it, alpacas!  They are also in the PNW.  One of the things I really liked about their journey is that they had the sprouts tested by their vet to confirm the increased nutrition value.  In the comments they talk about places to find seed on the west coast.

Over at Alpacanation.com there is a great thread with a farm owner, Holly Zech, that has been sprouting successfully for her alpacas since June 2011.  Full of great information!

To Sing with Goats shares a tutorial and parts list.

YumUniverse breaks down what sprouting is, how it works, why you soak & rinse as well as the nutritional value for people.  Lots of great pictures and information!


Hydrocentre.com.au has a questions page thats worth reading through.

Faster Fodder - Florida inmates sow barley as part of an inmate training & self-sufficiency program

Thursday, November 29, 2012

Rabbit update


We've made quite a few changes with our rabbits.  We sold just about all of the rabbits, with the exception of our pedigreed New Zealand Black doe & buck.  We bought a breeding trio of pedigreed Silver Fox rabbits, to get started.  We raise our rabbits as part of our food, so we started researching feed to meat conversion as well as dressed out weight vs live weight and then also temperament.  Everything kept pointing to the Silver Fox.  Aside from being a beautiful and docile rabbit, they also have a higher dress out weight, around 65-70%.

In the midst of starting over, we also redid all but 2 of our cages.  There are a lot of things that we learned as we went, things I wish we'd thought to ask about ahead of time (I'll do a separate post on that soon).  The cages we'd been given and had purchased along with rabbits were all wood.  The rabbits got much enjoyment chewing on it.  And they were HEAVY, took up a ton of space and were really hard to clean because of the designs.  We decided to suspend the cages that we built, opening up much more space.

(don't mind Oreo next to the hay, he's visiting)

We added foam insulation sheets, 4'x8', behind the cages (there is a 2" gap between the back of the cage and the insulation, so no rabbits are able to get to it to eat it).  During the summer the bottom row is removed and stored.  We're able to open the doors that line the entire outer wall of the room (if you're new here our barn is an old tobacco barn with 1 ft door every 2 ft the entire length of this side of the barn) and with the fans, it keeps the room cool and ventilated.  The heat lamps are removed and stored in the summer.

Our plan to redo the floor is still happening.  We're picking up the wood tomorrow!  You can see some of the gaps in the floor, and some of the wood is really weak, it bends when we walk on it, some of it has broken as we've moved cages in and out and while supporting the weight of the old cages.

We have 4 buck cages, (you can see 2 of them on the far left, with the solid wood doors) that measure 4'x3'x2.5'.  The Silver Fox is a big rabbit and we noticed that when it was breeding time, there wasn't enough room in the buck cages, so we took out the middle wall, opening them up.  Now there is plenty of space to play chase and uh, bunny hop ;-)

Our doe cages are all suspended with an attached oak nesting box.  The reason we picked untreated, from the mill rough cut oak is because it is a REALLY hard wood.  It also doesn't seem to absorb/radiate the air temperatures like the other wood did.  The nest boxes stay cool in the summer and warm in the winter.  The cages are 2'x2'x2' and the nest box is a couple inches smaller internally due to the thickness of the wood.  The nest box has a wire floor, we put in 1/4" plexiglas when its time for them to kindle.  In the winter we add about an inch of hay underneath the plexiglas.  They all get a bunch of hay to make a nest with along with their hair, year round.

The rabbits have their own website http://roguewildrabbitry.weebly.com/